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Another source for a 50-70,000 mile rim-- Pythagorus

February 6, 2017, 4:06 pm
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Gleason Flat Earth Map Triangle - YouTube


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OY-zXGdwfoo

I can't explain now becase y keyboard is broken... I spilled beer on it... will write ore next week on this.


Hot babes in Antarctica... possible new feature of this blog

Have any children been concieved and born in Antarctica yet? I don't know. They say there's no per anent poplation bt aybe that's not tre. Here's enny's twitter.
Jenny Thomas (@jen_thomas_) on Twitter
I wonder if she's single and available?


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Possible new proof based on Flattie Cake's Curves

February 7, 2017, 2:44 pm
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Flattie Cake's led e to a new proof for flat earth. She tried to copare shortest distances on flat earth at different latitdes with shortest distances on a sphere withot a conclsion or diagras. When I diagraed it, I realized that the shortest coparable distance on a sphere is THROGH solid rock into the earth. Not ch of a deonstration or proof. Still it occrred to e, as I diagraed it, that the shortest distance between two points on a flat earth vs. the shortest distance between two points at the sae latitde on a sphere wold have different flight paths. So I case stdied Vancover Canada to St. ohns Newfondland Canada-- both at 50 N give or take a degree. When we exaine internet based ROTE aps for that flight, we see that it goes OVER aes Bay-- rather than directly along the 50N line, give or take a degree or two. I'll correct y spelling later when I get y new keyboard. For now watch her video linked above then exaine the following diagras. I'll write this p better toorrwo. INDEX label below is "Flattie Cake's Cvers and Potvin's Proof". 


Here's a sall part of the Gleason flat earth ap that shows the shortest distance between Vancover Canada and St. ohn's Newfondland on a flat plane. Note that the flight SHOULD go over aes Bay if the world is flat. 


Note fro the standard ap below that the shortest distance betwween Vancover and St. ohns wold norally be thoght of as pretty ch along 49N... give or take a degree.  The BLE line shows that. The ORANGE line is where the flight path for flat earth is... over Aes Bay, the shortest distance on a plane.


When I looked p the actal rote, I fond it to be the THIN BLE CONTINOUS line below... that goes over aes Bay, consistent with the shortest rote on a flat world.  If the world were a ball, the shortest rote wold be the ORANGE LINE below.


Thanks to Flattie Cake for the video that got e thinking in this direction. Even thogh her own deonstration was flawed, it was creative enogh to get e thinking abot the crves on the aps... and coparing the for shortest distance on flat vs. spherical world.



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Landing at mcmurdo video

February 8, 2017, 2:13 pm
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Taking off fro Casey Station's Wilkins Rnway

February 8, 2017, 7:46 pm
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Flights - mcmurdo (Pegasus) to... ?

February 9, 2017, 12:53 pm
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There are tons of videos on yotbe showing take-offs and landings fro and to the stations BT they never say where they're GOING or coing fro.
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y flat earth ap with stations is being qoted on yobe.

February 9, 2017, 8:38 pm
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Southern hemisphere distances on internet calculators vary with real bloggers

February 11, 2017, 4:34 pm
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Road Trip actually tested...

Perth to Sydney... is quoted online with mileage calculators as 2059 miles....but it's actually 2700 miles. Here's a blog-commentator's report on reality....

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It is really difficult to drive -there is nothing but a desert - you will have to carry all your fuel, food and water - there aren't any towns or gas stations or motels. If you break down it might be days to weeks before seeing someone - no cell phone towers. You will need at least a 4WD because a lot of the roads aren't sealed; you can't drive at night - not only because it is pitch black but also it is when you are most likely to hit a kangeroo. It is over 2700 miles between the two. I highly don't recommend driving.
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Rick says...
So this believable reporter says it's actually 2700 miles... thus the online calculator lies.
It's 30% more than what the official sources from maps, globes and online travel media say.
The road between the two towns isn't crooked enough to make up the 600 mile difference. I'll redouble my efforts to look at this in the surest future I can. 
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Side to side rotation vs. top to bottom rotation of gyroscope will prove flat vs. sphere earth

February 11, 2017, 5:51 pm
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Previously, in another blog, I research hollow earth and determined that a gyroscope would easily detect the hole at the north pole. I've never applied the gyroscope to the flat earth however. Now, I will submit an idea for determining flat vs globe earth using a gyroscope. This can be done at the equator or, more easily, at 60 S Lat where less land is in the way or even around the circumference of Antarctica. It can even be performed on a flight across the Atlantic Ocean or anywhere in the northern hemisphere. For the purpose of this blog, however, I'll think about what it would be like to watch a gyroscope as we go around Antarctica.

If you start the gyroscope by orienting it as a circle in front of you, then tour the Antarctic shoreline around 75 degrees South Latitude, it will swing from left to right around a full circle-- if earth is flat. If Earth is a sphere, however, it will tilt from top to bottom and bottom to top again in addition to turning left to right.

Here's a pilot who calmly and rationally explains how, if earth were spherical, that his attitude indicator would have to indicate that.... except it doesn't. He never had to teach about correcting for earth's curvature.


Now here's a carousel. Consider riding a horse on a carousel while holding a powered gryoscope-- or just one wound up before the ride since it would last 3 minutes. Think of the carousel as a metaphor for riding around Antarctica. If the earth is flat, the gyroscope would merely rotate sideways. However, if the earth is a sphere, the gyroscope flywheel would have to flip at an angle in addition to rotate sideways.


This year, 2017, I was finally able to find videos of airplane gyros which can spin for hors-- deonstrating that the earth does not spin.






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Captain Cooke again-- on a flat earth projection

February 12, 2017, 12:11 pm
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Is Halley VI fakery being "decommissioned"? -- SHUT DOWN IN PROGRESS

February 12, 2017, 12:32 pm
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Until I can verify this Halley VI as real in more ways than a Youtube video and the say-so of "authorities", I'm going to reserve judgement on its existence. Jungle Surfer has pointed out some inconsistencies in the presentation of other stations on his youtube channel. Although I have not concluded anything, I think I have to now be careful, in 2017, that the circumference of Antarctica I plan to measure by doing a virtual tour of what-I-originally-thought-were-real-research-stations, is tempered by some double checking of the very existence of these stations. This one in particular, Halley VI, seems a bit unbelievable what-with-it's hydraulic lift legs and overall worm-crawl across the ice. It seems more like "science-fiction" than reality. Take a look. (Indexed below under Halley VI)


BIG (fake?) NEWS FOR HALLEY
It turns out that this month, everyone is being evacuated because of a big crack in the ice that Halley's worm-station can't out-crawl. So their entire premise of crawling along to save their station is bogus apparently. You "CAN" certainly "make-this-stuff-up". I read science fiction for years. And this is this STUFF of sci fi.

halley vi - Google Search


Incredible facts about the Halley VI research station

BBC News‎ - Jan 17, 2017
A huge crack in the ice near an important scientific research station is forcing it to move to a new location. The Halley VI is a British Antarctic ...
British scientists forced to close Halley Antarctica research station for ... Daily Mail
Britain's Halley VI Research Station Closed by Antarctic Ice CrackNBCNews.com
A Giant Ice Crack Is Forcing the Evacuation of the Halley Antarctic ...ScienceAlert
Sky News - International Business Times UK


Break in Ice Forces the Cancellation of Winter Research at Antarctic ...

snopes.com‎ - 2 days ago
The British Antarctic Survey decided against wintering scientists in their Halley VI Station after a large, unpredictable crack developed nearby.
Massive ice shelf break forces Antarctic researchers to evacuate PBS NewsHour
Polar architecture: the research bases built using green ideas Financial Times
Watch: Amazing effort to move Cambridge Antarctic base on skis Cambridge News
ZME Science - Catholic Online









Published on Jan 16, 2017
UAV (unmanned airborne vehicle) flight along a crack in the Brunt Ice Shelf, which appeared. This was detected by scientists in October 2016.

Halley VI station (https://www.bas.ac.uk/polar-operation...) is in the final stages of being relocated 23 km from its present site to put it upstream of a previously dormant ice chasm that began to show signs of growth in 2012.

In October 2016, a second crack appeared some 17 km to the north of the research station. Since then glaciologists have monitored the growth of this crack using a network of GPS instruments that measure the deformation of the ice, together with European Space Agency satellite imagery, ground penetrating radar, and on-site drone footage, which show that the recent changes to the Brunt Ice Shelf have not been seen before.

This second crack is shown in this video. Learn more on our website: https://www.bas.ac.uk/media-post/hall...






BAS will shut down Antarctica's Halley VI in winter because of ice ...

MercoPress‎ - Jan 19, 2017
British Antarctic Survey (BAS) has decided not to winter at Halley VI Research Station for safety reasons. The station, which is located on the ...
Massive Antarctic ice crack shutters British research station Mother Nature Network (blog)
Antarctic ice shelf rift forces UK scientists to leave Hindustan Times
Climate Change Shut Down a Research Station in Antarctica, and ...Motherboard
CDA News - DemocratLive
halley vi - Google Search






Halley was safe from first crack after moving but now SECOND CRACK! 


The 'caterpillar' is safe! Antarctic research station is dragged 14 miles across an ice shelf to avo - YouTube

The problem is further compounded by a second crack, which has opened up to the north of the base, on a route sometimes used to deliver supplies.
The team has just nine weeks to move the research station, before the harsh winter sets in.
The base will be broken up into its eight modules and moved further inland by large tractors.
Scientific research w


UK completes Antarctic Halley base relocation - YouTube





Published on Feb 2, 2017
UK completes Antarctic Halley base relocation
The British Antarctic Survey (BAS) has completed the move of its Halley research station.
The base is sited on the floating - and moving - Brunt Ice Shelf, and had to be relocated or face being dumped in the ocean.
Tractors were used to tow the eight modules that make up the futuristic-looking Halley 23km further "inland".


BAS is now in the process of reorganising all this research to take account of the forthcoming shutdown.
Although automatic weather stations can continue to collect their data on solar and battery energy, pretty much all other experiments will have to be suspended.

Of the 16 people who would ordinarily expect to over-winter at Halley, three will now work out of the UK's Rothera station on the Antarctic Peninsula instead.

Another individual will go to King Edward Point station on South Georgia.
All the others will come back to BAS HQ in Cambridge.
Halley will be re-opened in November - the start of the next summer season.


PUT ON HEADPHONES... and listen-- great vibrato guitar-- and bass.Halley VI Research Station relocation success - YouTube

Having moved the station, further concerns about a further crack which had been discovered on 31 October 2016 led the BAS to announce that they would withdraw their staff from the base in March 2017, for the duration of the Antarctic winter.[39] In February 2017, The base completed their relocation which is now 23km further "inland" from the crack.[40]
Halley Research Station - Wikipedia



HALEY VI
move in 2014Garage & Drewery Building Move - Halley VI, Antarctica - YouTube

They have time to make silly films in Antarctica
The Princess and the Pea - Antarctic 48-hour film competition, KEP South Georgia - YouTube
Time lapse
Halley Research Station Antarctica Winter 2015 - YouTube

Published on Feb 2, 2017

February 2017. British Antarctic Survey (BAS) has successfully relocated Halley VI Research Station to its new home on the Brunt Ice Shelf. It took 13 weeks to move the world's first fully relocatable research facility 23 km across the ice. The largest module (A module - living space) is seen her successfully making its way slowly to its new location on Brunt Ice Shelf.

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South Pole station has telescope "unaffected by rotation of earth"?

February 13, 2017, 4:41 am
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Good RT documentary... with much to ponder. It seems to me that this thing was actually indeed built-- even if the "pole" is a rim. Note that the location is "south" of McMurdo which could be nothing more than a convenient place on the rim. Jungle Surfer has earlier pointed to possible fake stations and I'm watching out for fakery but this documentary is pretty realistic. The idea that that the telescope points up and is unaffected by earth's rotation is mentioned about half way through. What could possibly be the reason for the extreme effort here? If Antarctica is a rim, then "south pole station" would actually be a DEEP ANTARCTIC STATION-- further "out" than any other station.
Antarctica: Ready for winter. Antarctic winter is coming: research crews prepare Russia’s stations - YouTube

Here's my modified station location map of an original map whose source I cannot find but will try in the near future since I've used it quite a bit.  Note the location of SOUTH POLE and VOSTOK, as well as CONCORDIA as possibly the DEEPEST stations back from the rim. 


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Rick Potvin's Flat Earth Cruise Challange

February 20, 2017, 1:54 pm
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I'm getting "up there" in years and so I feel that I should, as a piano player, play piano on a cruise ship but only the kind of cruise ship that go around the perimeter of Antarctica at a high enough latitude that and with enough verification that we can prove 15 or 70,000 miles. I'm going to have to rely on a lot of other people for navigation, directions and financing but I can at least play the piano on the cruise. At first I was going to do this navigation from home as virtual but there seem to be some problems with that in terms of the information I can gather. I view myself as a latter day Phinneus Fogg of Jules Vernes' Around the World in 80 Days and indeed-- if Antarctica is an island at the bottom of a spinning sphere that revolves around a burning ball that's 93 million miles out, then it will indeed take us about 80 or 90 days to keep sailing east or west at about 75 degrees South latitude. If, on the other hand, the burning ball is configured 3000 miles above on a pancake Earth, then the trip should take about the same time Captain Cook took-- maybe a bit less-- a year or two. Authorities might not permit us to venture further south than the 60 south latitude line, in which case we'll use that as our guide. I'd like to do the tour by boat and by air-- possibly a blimp. I think I'd better pack a lunch though.

The question of Earth being flat or spherical is surprising irresolvable in any sort of easy way. When I started this virtual mission, I expected to be able to come to a quick conclusion one way or another. The fact that I have not and this-- combined with the online worlds' fascination with the topic-- makes this at least an interesting if not utilitarian pursuit. I mean-- with all the consumer level tours by travel agencies out there these days, one would think this matter would be easily resolved with a quick trip around Antarctica in the manner I described-- by some jet figher pilot or by a private ice breaker yaghter. But no. Where I ended up with this blog is the possibility of fake Antarctica research stations and rules and regulations against human activity that boggle the mind. The more I widen my search, the more byzantine the resistance to the resolution of the problem becomes.

TCM, Turner Classic Movies, is a channel I love to watch. Old movies are great. TCM runs cruises for their fans. Cruise ships are getting bigger all the time-- despite the faltering economies of the world. I don't understand it. My sister has worked cruise ships for years. Why are there no cruise blimps? There are a lot of pianos on cruise ships. I'd like to initiate the world's first Flat Earth Cruise by being a point of reference for anyone interested in doing whatever it takes to prove earth flat or spherical once and for all by bringing to the real physical world what I had at first thought was possibly by sitting at home and surfing the net with a bottle of beer.

See Flat Earth Cruise Challange in the index below for more updates later.
Around the World In 80 Days (1956) Official Trailer ...
Around the World in 80 Days (2004) Movie ...
Around the World in 80 days miniseries Part 1 - YouTube



 Phinneus Fogg and Rick Potvin
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Easier route at 60S rather than Antarctica circumnavigation.

March 9, 2017, 6:01 am
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It occurs to me this morning that following the route of the apparent Vendee racers at 60S latitude might be easier to do than to visit all the Antarctic stations in a tight circumnavigation of Antarctica. circumference of the earth at 60 degrees south - Google Search



60th parallel south - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/60th_parallel_south
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The 60th parallel south is a circle of latitude that is 60 degrees south of the Earth's equatorial plane. No land lies on the parallel — it crosses nothing but ocean.

The circumference of a globe at 0 should be about 40,000 km, they say. What is that in miles? 
40000 km in miles - Google Search 
24854.848 miles
Circle Sphere Earth Math Calculator

At 0 latitude, we have 24,901 miles.
At 60 lat., we have 12,482 miles.
If the earth is flat, then it cannot be 12,482 miles. It will have to be larger than 25,000 miles. More exactly, it will have to be between 25,000 and 70,000. See previous entries on why 70,000 is chosen.*

60 is 2/3 of 90 so circumference on a flat earth at 60 should be about 2/3 of 70,000 or 46,000. This is roughly 4X the distance of a spherical earth. 

Various maps of the Vendee route, re-examined, will remind us of the open ocean we should experience.
map of the vendee route - Google Search
distance of the vendee route - Google Search

The said time of the route completion is about 109 days or just over 3 months. If the speeds are maintained on a flat earth model, it should take 4X that time or roughly a year. Captain Cook's famous zig zag circumnavigation took 2 years so this is within a reasonable order of magnitude. 

If the race is being faked, then this is an excruciatingly complicated ruse since there is so much detail involved. 
Vendée Globe - Wikipedia

There are many participants and a repetition of the race every 4 years like the Olympics. So it should be easier to connect with a racer and get first hand accounts and verifications. Or it might be easier to enroll in the race itself or to simply follow one of the racers. Or it might even be easier to sail the route in a more comfortable ship rather than a sailboat. 



Presentation - Vendée Globe 2016-2017

www.vendeeglobe.org/en/presentation
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The Vendée Globe is still the only non-stop solo round the world race without ... to make a compromise between the shortest route, which is the furthest south, ...

As can be seen from the latest version of this race, there are a lot of corporate sponsors. So as a hoax, they would all have to be in on it.  Its hard to imagine how this is possible. But that's my theory. We could blow the lid off the spherical earth simply by trying to REPLICATE the Vendee Route in terms of time and distance. We don't have to follow a tight circumnavigation of Antarctica which never seems to get done, even by Antarctic authorities doing inspections. This is one of those ideas that lead me to think-- "why didn't I think of this before?"

distance of the vendee globe race - Google Search

From the above search, 'distance of the vendee globe race', I noted the following individual's website. He participated in all the races. The website is devoid of confirmation type evidence and smacks of the typical competition ego driven accolades of so called winners. I can't tell if the 2016-17 race is complete yet.
Alex THOMSON - Vendée Globe 2016-2017


Arrived on 20/01/17 at 08:37
Race time : 74d 19h 35m 15s (+15h 59m 29s)


It appears as though he complete the race in well under 3 months-- at 74 days on Jan. 20, 2017 and it appears he came in 2nd. His official personal website is here... It's heavy on graphics and images but short on readable information.
Alex Thomson Racing – Sail Survive Succeed

Keep in mind that the 74 days includes the north/south trip between France and the 60th S latitude which is considerable. 



1 - Start of the Vendée Globe yacht race on 6 November 2016 ...

www.vendee-tourism.co.uk/...vendee-globe...race/...race/1---start-of-the-vendee-globe-yacht-race-on-6-november-2016/
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At 1:02 pm on 6 November 2016, the eighth edition of the non-stop, solo, unassisted round-the-world yacht race sets sail from Les Sables-d'Olonne. IMG_92243 ...


1 DAY - From €249 per person
Book your seat onboard a passenger boat to watch the start of the race at sea.
On Sunday, 6th November 2016, feel the emotion of the big departure along the Vendée Globe boats!

Experience the last good-byes on the pontoon, shiver when leaving the harbour, and be onsite to hear the gun shot to the start of the most extraordinary offshore solo races.
Here we see that yu can watch the start of the face from a "passenger boat". Well, it's a small step to then FOLLOW the sailboats while ON the passenger ship. 
Sunday, 6th November 2016:
10.30 am: welcome aboard your passenger boat.11.30 am: boat leaves harbour to reach the passenger boats' dedicated area.12.15 am: lunch box onboard.01.02 pm: start of the race: follow the racing boats for the first few hours of the round the world race, with live commentary onboard by a professional skipper.04.00 pm: return to Les Sables d'Olonne harbour.
End of hospitality event.
At the following discussion, they look at what consistutes winning and what consitutes a lead. This is probably useful.
The lying New York Times had a big article about the winner and provides a few more numbers... such as the 28,000 mile distance covered.
Le Cléac’h — the runner-up in the last edition, four years ago — finished this time in 74 days 3 hours 35 minutes 46 seconds, breaking the race record by nearly four days. The British sailor Alex Thomson finished the 28,000-mile race on Friday, 15 hours behind Le Cléac’h. Jeremie Beyou, in third place, completed the race on Monday, only about four hours short of François Gabart’s previous race record, 78 days 2 hours 16 minutes 40 seconds, from 2012.
Recall, from the start of this post, that the circumference of a globular earth at 60S is about 12,482 miles. So the 28,000 mile distance is more than 2X that distance already-- but that might be due to the north south route from France to the 60, both ways. We'd have to see what that latitude of the starting point is and get the distance on a globe, they say, from France to the 60. It should be roughly the difference between the circumference and the distance covered by the racer, or 1/2 of 28,000 less 12,482..,. or 15,482 / 2  or about 7.750 miles. That seems a bit much but it's just an estimate at this time. The full circumnavigation of a flat earth at 60S should be roughly 4 or 5X the globular distance or 46,000 miles. 
I'll explore more about 60S, the chosen latitude for the race, and other interesting things about that latitude in future updates to this post. 

Why 60 South?

www.60south.com/about/about.htm
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60 degrees south is also a natural dividing line where the ocean and air currents circle the planet without any land to disrupt the flow. The encircling ocea



60th parallel south - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/60th_parallel_south
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The 60th parallel south is a circle of latitude that is 60 degrees south of the Earth's equatorial plane. No land lies on the parallel — it crosses nothing but ocean.



Traveling around 60 degrees south - The Flat Earth Society

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=64539...
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Traveling around 60 degrees south. ... Of course on a sphere, it would take 1 day (+60 & -60are the same). So does it take 5x (5/1) as long as 

 So, proving or disproving Flat Earth is as simple as getting a boat to go around -60 and seeing if it takes 2.5 weeks (1/2 a month) or 12.4 weeks (3 months) to go around!!!

Why 60 South?


Why 60 South?

The Antarctic Treaty establishes the region south of 60 degrees latitude as Antarctic Territory. The oceans, ice and land within this boundary are not owned by any country, but are set aside as a place for scientific and peaceful purposes. It is truly international territory -- while the treaty is in effect, no single country may control it, no military may possess it or conduct nuclear tests, and no territorial claims are recognized.


What we need is a GROUP CIRCUMNAVIGATION-- forget about the solo circumnavigations. 
cruise around 60 S latitude circumnavigation - Google Search

Rick says-- I've read about this voyage previously but can't verify it.
First circumnavigation of Antarctica by tourist ship | Polar Record | Cambridge Core


Rick says-- The following blog is an interesting account. I imagine a similar blog for someone like me or me to blog about circumnavigating 60S to verify distance. 

Rick says-- I'm looking at Marguaritaville- Jimmy Buffett videos as a model for a retirement cruise that would go around 60.

Rick says-- the following video is by the annoying chipmunk but is interesting and relevent to my proposal.

Rick says-- these could be fake but it provides a model for what I'd like to do. I thought this podcast was going to be realtime but it seems it's a retrospect which obviously doesn't have realtime narration which sucks bigtime. 


The Circumnavigators - by Don Holm - Chapter 21 - STexBoat

www.stexboat.com/books/circumnav/ci_21.htm
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The circumference of the earth at 60 deg south latitude is half what it is at the equator; our ... the first ferro-cement vessel to circumnavigate, now carrying her owners, Dr. ... A sixty-foot exhaust pipe was fitted from the engine forward through the two ... Griffith and his wife made a shakedown cruise up the California coast, and ...

Rick says ... no... it's 2X the distance. 


 The circumference of the earth at 60 deg south
         latitude is half what it is at the equator;
cruise around 60 S latitude circumnavigation - Google Search

Rick says.. You know what? I think the 60 has a lot more WAR going on than Antarctica or near Antarctica circumnav.
The Circumnavigators - by Don Holm - Chapter 21

Rick says.. wow. 
2. Soon after the Griffiths' voyage, Dr. David Lewis, another well- known circumnavigator, departed on an attempt to circle the globe at 60° S nonstop and solo, on the small Icebird

The Circumnavigators - by Don Holm - Table of Contents


Great graphics
Debunked: The Flat Earth Theory. 14 Ways the Flat Earth Theory is False | Metabunk





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We should replicate the Vendee Globe route in a cruise ship.

May 7, 2017, 5:19 pm
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I haven't been able to work on this project for some time now due to other pressing matters related to ordinary life. It occurred to me on my day off today, however, that consistent with the abandonment of my attempt to visit (virtually) all of the research stations (possibly fake) in Antarctica, that I would do well simply to replicate the oft-repeated Vendee Globe route used by the sailboat races-- only going in a cruise ship instead of a sail boat-- with a crew and passengers who would be interested in the mission of proving earth a globe or flat-- AT 60 degrees south. The distance should be a bit larger than 15,000 on a globe and somewhat less than 60,000 miles on a flat earth-- say 20,000 on a globe and about 48,000 on a flat earth. I haven't been able to write a blog post today but here are my references. See VENDEE in the index below for my previous posts on this. 




So it should be VERY easy to see if at -60 degrees, a boat going 20 mph will go all the way around the earth in 2.5 weeks or 12.4 weeks - nothing subtle about it - glaringly obvious which is correct.

You actually don't need to go all the way around. If after 4 days, starting at the southern tip of S. America going counter clockwise (disk)/east(sphere) at 20 mph, you are under South Africa, the 2.5 weeks is correct and the earth is a sphere.  If you are still under S. America, then 12.4 weeks is correct and the earth is flat. No ambiguity. Someone should be able to hire a boat for a couple days to try this and lay the Flat Earth/sphere earth debate to rest.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:6eJxZUs0U9EJ:https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic%3D64539.0%2B60+south&num=100&newwindow=1&safe=off&client=safari&rls=en&hl=en&ct=clnk


http://www.google.com/search?q=%2260+south%22+cruise&num=100&newwindow=1&safe=off&client=safari&rls=en&oq=%2260+south%22+cruise&gs_l=heirloom-serp.3..0i8i30.6829.9409.0.9641.2.2.0.0.0.0.161.242.1j1.2.0....0...1ac.1.34.heirloom-serp..0.2.240.RhaR303GqcI

http://photos.60south.com/gallery/cruise/index.html

"60 south" vendee

rickpotvinflatearth.blogspot.com/‎
Mar 9, 2017 ... Various maps of the Vendee route, re-examined, will remind us of the open ocean we should experience. .... 60 south - Google Search ...

rickpotvinflatearth.blogspot.com/.../swiss-polar-institutes-spi-90-day.html‎
Apr 28, 2016 ... This trip will be much more important than those Vendee Races which ..... that the A.Trishnikov will voyage south of 60 south but this morning, ...

https://rickpotvinflatearth.blogspot.com/2017/?m=0‎
Mar 9, 2017 ... distance of the vendee globe race - Google Search ..... further south than the 60south latitude line, in which case we'll use that as our guide.

www.smh.com.au/.../solo-antarctic-woman-crowdfunds-epic-journey- 20160706-gpzjxp.html
Jul 22, 2016 ... ... sailor Ivan Macfadyen when he competed in the Vendee Globe – a solo, ... latitudes 45 south and 60 south to avoid the worst of the weather

http://www.smh.com.au/national/solo-antarctic-woman-crowdfunds-epic-journey-20160706-gpzjxp.html


CAPTAIN RICK POTVIN will replicate the VENDEE RACE ROUTE at 60S on a CRUISE SHIP of flat-earth enthusiasts to decide if earth is flat or round. Rick and his crew will not seek to RACE around the globe but rather to document position, speed and time while following a WELL KNOWN PROVEN route. 

https://www.google.com/search?q=antarctica+cup+ocean+race+&num=100&newwindow=1&safe=off&hl=en&gl=us&authuser=0&oq=antarctica+cup+ocean+race+&gs_l=heirloom-serp.3...505305.509055.0.511071.26.12.0.11.11.0.263.1350.2j5j2.9.0....0...1ac.1.34.heirloom-serp..7.19.1423.waA8OhkNJdc

The Antarctica CupOceanRace is a non-stop race of around 14 000 nautical miles. Circumnavigating Antarctica by passing the three most notorious capes on the planet.
Cape Leeuwin, Cape Horn and Cape Agulhuss. Originally founded by Robert Williams the race has only ever seen one edition with current record holder Fedor Konyukhov being the only competitor brave enough to take on this challenge. Lisa will be racing the established record set by Fedor and will be the third person in History to complete such a challenge.


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Do you have any ship logs, coordinate logs, or anything like that to show us?


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The fact that you can attend the race, track them from shore, locate their radio signals from shore, keep in radio contact with video feed, and do this from the bottom tip of the continents surrounding Antarctica seems to favor RE.


I do not see how you can assume something of this magnitude and organization to be a mistake of navigation. I'll check back in tomorrow.

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Did you do any of that? 

How do you know that these people on the shore could locate their radio signals? Why would they even use transmission radio when they could use satellite phone?

Where is your evidence that people went to the tips of these continents to do this?

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I am sure you noticed that there are gates that they must pass through.


So someone went ahead and set up gates, buyoes, or whatever in intervals along the 14,000 mile stretch of water from the starting location. Big deal. That doesn't prove anything about where those gates really are or even if the captains reported seeing the gates.

That's assuming that the gates are even physical. The gates are more likely imaginary so that the captains could keep track of their progress - One imaginary gate per 1000 miles traveled would give the captains an idea of their total progress ("I'm 1/14th of the way there!")

Actually the map shows the racecourse with the three travel lanes (all of which can be used, but any may be closed due to hazards). Specifically, the course shows the "gates" through which the boats must pass, the islands on the course, and the starting/ending points on the continents of Australia, South America, and Africa.



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There’s nothing too complicated about how these gates work. An Ice Gate is a segment on a given latitude, defined between two longitudes. The space between the longitudes is around 400 miles, the equivalent of one and a half day of sailing. There are four to six, or sometimes seven gates along the route and they are spaced out between 800 and 2,000 miles. In order to validate their crossing, skippers only need to sail through the gate from north to south, from south to north, or just keeping sailing north

The collaboration with CLS organises as follows: “We establish a working plan with them for the ice monitoring, and they place an order with Canadian and European operators running the satellites for a number of organisations. Thanks to various technologies, they will try not only to find out where the ice is but also to see where they drift. Thanks to the weather softwares and drift algorithms they are using, we will certainly be able to determine where the ice seen on Monday will be on Wednesday and then on Friday”. Besides, “CLS will assign an engineer on the Paris race HQ, who will be part of our team for the whole southern seas period”, adds Denis Horeau.
http://www.vendeeglobe.org/en/news/1396/how-ice-gates-work






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Chippy points to Voliva's intention to sail 65S in 1923-- but no record of doing it.

July 17, 2017, 4:08 pm
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Gleason wrote a book?

July 17, 2017, 6:07 pm
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My modified Gleason map got 300,000+ views at FlatWaterFlatEarth-Youtube

July 23, 2017, 7:45 pm
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FF to 8:40 and again at 9:58 and at 10:11... lots of exposure (without credit-- which is my fault-- I should have pasted up my name and contact info... again at 17:06
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Flat Earth Society commenters want me to organize a jet race around Antarctica.

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quote So Rick Potvin would "like to see a Jet Plane Race around Antarctica." Fine, let him organise it! unquote source https://forum.tfes.org/index.php?topic=4972.0 Rick Potvin says-- We would have to stay north of 60 like Vendee claims when they run their sail boats around. If the earth is a sphere-- then the race ought to run about 24 hours at about 400 MPH. If it's flat, it ought to run 4X that-- say one work week from Monday morning to Friday morning. Those are rough approximations. John Lear, son of the inventor of the Lear Jet, is frequently on Coast to Coast and Noori wanted listeners to donate to him because he's out of money for some reason. If I can get Lear to agree to let his name be used in a promo for this race, in association with Lear Jet company, we might be able to set something up similar to what Vendee claims to have for sailboats-- but which I believe is being faked. The jet race won't be fake.
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Neil Brough who worked at Halley VI reacted negatively to my post about Halley

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http://bruffonthebrunt.blogspot.com/ bruff on the brunt_antarctica

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Don't give up your day job if you have one... Cause your reporting sucks.. You should try reporting for the daily mail
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Rick says-- here's my original post about Halley
Rick Potvin's Virtual Circumnavigation of Antarctica to Decide if Earth is Global or Flat: Is Halley VI fake? Is it being "decommissioned"?

Rick says this about Neil-- I find it non-academic and insulting to have a worker castigate my research with a quip like he made and using the language he used. There are lots of ordinary workers, apparently, at the stations in Antarctica-- if the stations are not all fake as Jungle Surfer is suggesting. We're to believe that there are a small cadre of science researchers and engineers supported by crews who do the grunt work-- possibly a ration of 10 to 1. Neil strikes me as potentially one of the 10 rather than 1. I admire his moxy in posting to my blog however and I'll attempt to converse with him in the near future for whatever it's worth. I'm pretty civil to all sorts of people given my background in dealing with the public in sales.

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kavik2k10 features my blog on his video commentary.

July 24, 2017, 3:51 pm
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